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An ancestor of the Haflinger?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:31 am
by Rick K
Last week I had the pleasure of again visiting the Military History Museum in Vienna, the Heeresgeschichtliches. There in the WWII exhibition hall I found this lovely creature, built by Steyr-Daimler-Puch. There is a certain similarity to the later Haflinger in its utilitarian lines. You could have a lot on fun in this...

enjoy

Rick

Re: An ancestor of the Haflinger?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:49 am
by heinkeljb
Very nice, but probably geared for total off road use only and very thirsty to boot! I wouldn't turn my nose up at it for those reasons though!

Any chance some one could do an English translation of the placard?

I wonder how many were produced?

Be bloody cold in winter as there doesn't seem to be any heating other than having the engine right next to you - roasting one side and freezing the other side :lol:

John

Re: An ancestor of the Haflinger?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:38 pm
by Julian B
heinkeljb wrote:Any chance some one could do an English translation of the placard?
Running it through Google Translate - and then tweaking it a bit to make it flow better - comes up with ...
CATERPILLAR TRACTOR EAST (RSO) IN THE REDUCED EXECUTION AS MOUNTAIN CRAWLER TRACTOR (RSG)

Motor: 8 cylinder V motor
Driving Speed: 70/85 PS
Air Cooled / Blowers

In the winter of 1941/42, the lack of horses on the Eastern Front was noticeable and the German Army vehicles could no longer meet their elite tasks. So in early 1942, they began to develop a tractor with Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG, the needs of the German Wehrmacht should correspond to the East. This "caterpillar tractor East" (alone in Steyr in 2,600 pieces) produced until 1944 in various finishes: (as Selbdahriafette (maybe "self propelled???)) from several manufacturers. The gezergle here? was used to determine the Art Treasures the Vienna Museums in the Salzburg factory??? transport.
Not great but it gives one the gist! :oops:

Re: An ancestor of the Haflinger?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:24 am
by Rick K
Julian, thanks for the translation.

For something designed to be used on the eastern front, you would think it would at least have haflinger-type framed canvas doors. It would have been awful through one of those long russian winters, although if I recall what my grandfather told me, the troops were grateful for any kind of servicable motorised transportation (especially in retreat), doors or no.

cheers

Rick

Re: An ancestor of the Haflinger?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:16 am
by Julian B

Re: An ancestor of the Haflinger?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:02 am
by Rick K
Thanks for the link Julian.

The pressed sheet-metal cab version has some similarities to the later Kommunal Haflinger. Perhaps this 'Raupenschlepper Ost' did provide some design inspiration for the Haflinger from the point of view of the tray and body, but Erich Ledwinka's influence is not apparent at this early stage given the caterpillar track configuration. An early version of the Schnee Wiesel Haflinger...

Here is a youtube link to a surviving Raupenschlepper Ost in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9OuVEo5PXw

Rick