It's a bit long winded but here we go….
I purchased my 1971 - 700 from Victoria from David Wade ( No issues there). David had it registered under a club membership. I would really prefer a full registration so it is my choice when to drive.
This has been the process to date:
1. I have a Road Worthy Certificate and the Compulsory Third Party Insurance.
2. I presented the vehicle at the local Department, and particularly because it had no Australian Compliance Plate referred me to the "policy division" of the Transport Regulation Branch | Department of Transport and Main Roads. That is where the real fun starts.
3. Their first reply was:
4. My very lengthy reply advised that their information was incorrect. I advised them the serial numbers of the 46 Only Haflingers that were owned by the Australian Army, and note that these were all manufactured in 1966 with an engine numbers series 5358xxx, Chassis 5357xxx. The vehicle in question is a 1971 Engine No 5363606 and chassis 5361472.Thank you for your enquiry to the Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) about registering a 1971 Steyr Puch (Halfinger) vehicle in Queensland.
It is noted that this vehicle was able to be registered in Victoria with a club permit. However, TMR's Vehicle Standards section has advised that as the vehicle was only designed and supplied to Australia as military vehicles, as such, would only be eligible in Queensland for conditional registration under the 'Utility off road vehicle' category.
Attached is the information sheet for a conditionally registered 'Utility off road vehicle' for your information .
I also gave links to web sites, public advertisements for haflingers, lists of retail distributers, private companies and government departments that owned haflingers. In all very conclusive evidence that there were haflingers produced and sold to the public.
5. Their reply was:
6. That was a lengthy reply. But very briefly not only do I wish to use it as a promotional vehicle for my business but when it's a nice day and the mood is right, just as those do, who own an old Ford Mustang, Corvette, Harley, E type Jaguar, Mercedes SL500, etcCan you please provide comments on the following:
Why do you want the vehicle registered?
Where do you want to use the vehicle?
What do you need to use it for?
for the pleasure of driving something unique………..
7. Their reply 2 days ago:
8. They have never asked for a photograph of the ID plate, - which is fittedThe Department of Transport and Main Roads' (TMR) Registration Policy unit has liaised extensively with the Vehicle Standards section to assist in determining if this vehicle would be eligible for standard registration.
The Vehicle Standards section has advised that a 1971 Steyr Puch Haflinger model should have originally been fitted with an identification plate showing that the vehicle was manufactured in accordance with the applicable 2nd Edition Australian Design Rules. However, as an identification plate is not fitted (or missing) it is impossible to determine if the vehicle was constructed in accordance with the Australian Design Rules for normal on-road use or for off-road/military use only. As such, Vehicle Standards is unable to comment on the vehicle's safety/compliance to the Vehicle Standards Regulation for standard registration of the vehicle.
A vehicle with no identification/compliance plate is generally considered acceptable for standard registration provided previous registration records can be obtained (interstate or local). While this vehicle does have a record of VicRoads Club registration, this scheme is not regulated as closely as the normal standard registration scheme and therefore TMR would have some concerns with accepting this as evidence of original compliance.
Registration Policy Unit has contacted VicRoads about the club permit registration of this vehicle. VicRoads advised that, as it is a non-ADR compliant vehicle, it would be eligible for club permit registration. Non-ADR compliant vehicles, such as this, are assessed on a case by case basis if applying for standard registration.
Although, you have provided evidence that there were similar vehicles previously registered in Australia (current or expired), it may be the case that these vehicles complied with Australian Design Rules applicable to the vehicle and fitted with a compliance plate, therefore eligible for standard registration.
In view of the above, this vehicle would only be eligible for conditional registration as previously advised.
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9. I have supplies 4 registration number of haflingers that I have found listed on the web
Qld: 685-EQH
NSW: LFZ-476
VIC: LCT-131
Cnba: YJK-06B
But typically all states operate independently so this may well be a Queensland battle !!
10. I will in my next reply send the photograph of the ID plate however it says nothing about Australian manufacture, only the Steyr-Daimler-Puch GRAZ works
11. For your information from what I have ascertained Australian Compliance plates only came into force in August 1972
This is a 1971 vehicle
11. Before I reply can anyone help with the following information or suggestions
# The previous history of this particular vehicle
# Other ID plates from 1971
# Is there an Australian factory record of production engine numbers etc?
or any information/advice
Cheers and thanks
kym